Long in membership – low in activity

I started to do some housework on the blog, and noticed that the membership has now reached 359, which considering it’s not actively visible on the net, and it’s a rather specialized subject, isn’t too bad.

But it seems much of that membership is ‘dead wood’. By that i mean they have taken no active involvement in the blog by leaving comments, reviews etc.

So, to make the management of the list easier, along with the planned quarterly change on 1st July, i will remove all inactive members.

‘The Rules’ have been updated.

68 Responses to “Long in membership – low in activity”

  1. Shane Smith December 18, 2015 at 03:17 #

    I’m trying to figure out how to download anything from here.

    Can anybody help me?

    • oxforddickie December 18, 2015 at 09:22 #

      The blog is in a state of suspension at the moment, so (members) freebies are only available to them at this present time.

  2. ultimatetrouble November 7, 2015 at 21:41 #

    I admit I’m one who don’t participate much in the blog, but enjoy what I read and music I get. I have learned a lot about the old school surround from this site which was big when I was in my tens of age, I never knew the complexity of the work involved. I recently have been thinking of the Windows 10 takeover and how it affects some people on the equipment they use to play the quads. As it stands right know I get an album, rip it to be DTS files and and make play lists I can play on Windows Media Player, with the aid of various drivers and decoders. I read that Windows 10 won’t have media player and I’m sure my drivers won’t work with it either. I have the ability to play them right at my pc with a DTS receiver or stream to a receiver in another room. Yes i can still burn DVD’s but swapping discs is cumbersome especially when you want to hear just a few songs from album then more from another. I hope I’m not upsetting you die hard quaders but I love quads too just I use it in a different way I guess. In the end it’s all about the experience isn’t it? If it wasn’t for OD, I wouldn’t even think about quad. Long live quads. Thank You

    • Beechwoods (@Beechwoods_) November 8, 2015 at 08:22 #

      Hi there,

      VLC Player will handle DTS playlists in just the same way as WMP, without any additional drivers. It’ll also play the raw ISO files as well. It may be your simplest like for lie replacement.

      Or you could use Foobar2000 which is like the swiss-army knife of music players. It needs the foo_input_dts plugin but also has plugins for DVDA and will also play the raw ISO files. You can also tag your ISO’s, and convert easily to multi-channel FLAC if you wish…

  3. krisbee2000 August 21, 2014 at 01:11 #

    I’m so grateful for this blog and the work done here… I love quad, but let’s face it – the old equipment can be troublesome, and quite expensive, and while I do try to decode my sq/qs albums using DPL, the results can be spotty, at best. It is nice to hear these original mixes better than they ever were in the past with equipment that is affordable to most people (my receiver was $150usd and the DVD player was $30)… and making the discs fully compatible with DVD-V as well as DVD-A is just so thoughtful. Great work OD and CB!

  4. quadrophiliac August 2, 2014 at 20:33 #

    I am bit of a wallflower in real life and usually a lurker in online forums. I have no quad expertise to offer here so I am usually silent, feeling I have very little to offer to the conversation. I have tried to be a good citizen by donating when I can and seeding torrents. I hope I haven’t been culled for lack of participation.

  5. krompac June 28, 2014 at 12:40 #

    Everyday I look this blog but do not write comments because my English is poor. I understand that these users are those useless but for me that was a great loss without the information contained herein.

  6. rockyofpittsburgh June 21, 2014 at 01:35 #

    Since this seems to have turned into a general discussion, I would like to take this opportunity to praise Sir Odee for his great work in restoring and preserving these wonderful quad albums in the best possible way. Some are taking quad albums and “upmixiing” them to 5.1. What? Why add a center channel to a quad mix when it was never intended by the original engineer? More is not necessarily better. Who needs a center channel when, in he original mix, pan pots were used to place instruments anywhere desired in-between the speakers? It ruins those old quad albums. I count myself very lucky to have found this blog..

    • johnpierogi June 23, 2014 at 09:32 #

      @Rock – couldn’t agree with you more regarding the business of 5.1 “upmixing”. In my view, vintage quad and 5.1 surround (which originated as soundtracks for film) are radically different concepts. Many folk, unfortunately, seem unable to comprehend this notion.

      I’m not dissing 5.1 – there are some brilliant “new” 5.1 mixes out there – stuff that was recorded/mixed specifically for 5.1 and/or not up- or re-mixed from quad. And still, I’m partial to the best among the mixes from the golden (and all too brief) era of quad. There’s something rather special about proper quad mixes, the way those four channels of sound envelop the listener.

  7. gulliverity June 20, 2014 at 09:59 #

    What I most appreciate about this blog (and OD’s sublime decodes) is how he constantly surprises me with music I’d never heard of before. Perhaps I’m in the minority, but I much prefer the obscure stuff!

    • oxforddickie June 20, 2014 at 11:19 #

      I do try and keep the releases varied, basically because it matches what i normally listen too. I certainly couldn’t run a blog based on just one style of music.

      • Q! June 20, 2014 at 11:53 #

        Yes, this variety is – of course beyond the great quadraphonic experience – what makes this blog so valuable and unique

  8. jaypfunk June 19, 2014 at 20:59 #

    I always leave comments and/or reviews. It’s only right.

  9. farfig June 19, 2014 at 18:23 #

    I also have donated to the cause on a few occasions, but generally don’t leave comments. That shall have to change, as I now stand corrected.

    Thanks for all the hard work, and application of your considerable knowledge and skill. The world is a better place for your efforts……..

  10. johnpierogi June 19, 2014 at 17:39 #

    As one among the “silent” majority (?) it’s been nice to read through these comments. While I don’t want to clutter this thread up with reviews and/or thoughts on my favorite OD quad releases, I’d like to contribute and intend to do more of that within the comments sections for individual releases.

    That being said… in general, to get the ball rolling, I’ll say that among this year’s releases I found the quad release of Nilsson Schmilsson particularly entertaining – especially since I know the standard 2-channel stereo issue of that album fairly well.

    I can’t speak for everyone, but, for me, typically it’s the quad versions of albums with which I’m already familiar in 2-channel that most intrigue – especially in those instances where the quad versions contain different solo or additional instrumental tracks within the mix. Some of the Steely Dan’s are a prime example of that exciting and often overlooked aspect of quad releases.

    Thanks again, OD!

    • oxforddickie June 19, 2014 at 18:00 #

      I agree, the differences in the mixes are interesting. As to cluttering, go ahead… the more clutter, the better

      • johnpierogi June 19, 2014 at 21:43 #

        Excellent!

        Any Streisand fans out there? I think the quad version of her 1971 album “Barbra Joan Streisand” has some brilliant moments. For example, on “The Summer Knows” the rears are mostly strings and woodwinds, while everything else is up front. It makes for a truly immersive sonic perspective, as if you’re a couple meters forward from the conductor’s podium standing between and within the string sections. For people who like to hear all the details of an orchestral arrangement, it kills the 2-channel version – no contest!

        What about SINATRA fans? For ages I’ve been trying to find the quad version of his album “Some Nice Things I’ve Missed” – it’s listed in the WB/Reprise catalog (FS4-2195) but (to my knowledge) only the other four Sinatra quads have been circulating over the years (My Way, Greatest Hits V.2, Main Event, and Old Blue Eyes is Back). I’m not sure that any of those were OD releases, but perhaps they were available on the old site? In any case, does anyone know the scoop on Some Nice Things, e.g., was it actually released?

        I could go on for hours about the finer subtleties of the aforementioned four Sinatra quads. They are (like BJS in quad) another prime example of the fabulously immersive sonic perspective that those 4-channel mixes were meant to be all about, back in the day, presumably…

        • oxforddickie June 19, 2014 at 22:02 #

          Indeed the old blog had some Sinatra albums, but they were removed due to issues from the original supplier, not the releaser.

          Sinatra’s “Some Nice Things” certainly was released in quad, i have two copies here, one of which is a little special. So you never know…….

          • johnpierogi June 19, 2014 at 22:16 #

            wow… very exciting prospects may been looming, I hope!

          • johnpierogi June 19, 2014 at 22:49 #

            Do you have quad reel? I gotta tell you, I’m ENORMOUSLY excited about the possibility that you may offer Sinatra’s SNTIM as an OD DVD-A release.

            Some folk get into a tizzy over that particular album, and it can get ugly. But I think it’s absolutely terrific. It’s just so much FUN, and I’d bet Sinatra had a lot of fun recording it. Also, as big band adaptations of contemporary rock/pop songs go, Don Costa’s charts are among his most inspired and “fresh” sounding work. “Sweet Caroline” is an ideal example of what I’m talking about here. At face value, it’s definitely a bit silly, but there’s magic in there. Sinatra was still kinda young (under 60, anyway) and he was still running smooth on all cylinders.

  11. krisbee2000 June 19, 2014 at 01:23 #

    I absolutely appreciate what you do… Couldn’t enjoy these any other way…

  12. forthosewithfourears June 18, 2014 at 22:56 #

    Hi All,
    Glad I got back from holiday in time !
    I’m guilty as hell re not leaving comments. I will definitely respond to everything I download from now on.
    I have been listening in quad in some shape or form since Sunflower and consider what you are doing to be genuinely indispensable.

  13. groovesaver June 18, 2014 at 15:09 #

    Thank you for all your hard work in bringing these recording to us.

  14. jerrray June 18, 2014 at 08:00 #

    I will start leaving comments and reviews from now thank you Jerrray

  15. birdycat19 June 17, 2014 at 23:41 #

    I’ll take quality over quantity any day of the week, which is why I’m here! Keep up the great work.

  16. bigheadrascal June 17, 2014 at 21:21 #

    I’m guilty of rarely posting comments, but will make the effort in the future. Don’t laugh at me, but I do my listening from a $200 low end HTIB. Also, at 60 years old my hearing isn’t what it used to be. Those things considered, I hadn’t thought my comments would be worth much. I must say I’m extremely grateful for the excellent work OD does. None of the releases I’ve experienced thus far have been in any way disappointing.

    • oxforddickie June 17, 2014 at 21:23 #

      Any comments are worth while, we all have a view

      • octhardcore June 18, 2014 at 18:19 #

        I’m as bad as the rest about commenting . I have pm’d you on occasion re bbc sq stuff but will do my best to post a review next time I download something. Like a lot of others I do really appreciate all your hard work.

  17. wogden June 17, 2014 at 16:43 #

    I’m pretty lax with the reviews, but part of the experience here is taking a chance on something and finding out that there’s a reason it was obscure. Or that even though it has a following, I didn’t care for it in stereo and quad/5.1 isn’t changing that opinion. I’m very grateful for the chance to explore such a wide range of music, so it kind of feels disrespectful to express any negative opinions on particular music given the time, expertise, and trouble our host takes to make it available.

    So I guess I need to try harder to share my enjoyment where appropriate. Unless you want more negativity, that would probably play to my strengths.

    • oxforddickie June 17, 2014 at 18:43 #

      I have no problems with people being negative about an album, the mix or whatever about a particular release.

      It can be interesting to see another point of view. So, post your thoughts.

    • Owen Smith June 17, 2014 at 20:34 #

      An example of an album much improved by the quad mix is Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother. A waste of shelf space in stereo, this becomes worth listening to in quad I find.

      • oxforddickie June 17, 2014 at 20:40 #

        Very true, almost as if it had been made with quad in mind. Shame the quad mix of ‘Meddle’ never got released, now that, if done well, would be an interesting listen.

      • sacdtodvda June 18, 2014 at 11:05 #

        My pick would be ELO’s debut – if it wasn’t quad, I probably wouldn’t listen to it at all other than 1 or 2 tracks.

  18. johnpierogi June 17, 2014 at 16:06 #

    I am chiming it from the sideline to say a big and sincere THANKS to oxforddickie for his hard work and effort over the years to made these quad presentations available. I’m sad over the outrageous, arrogant and counter-productive posts that pop up time and again in various places online (e.g., QQ and the SH forum) and regret that I have nothing wise to say about it – it’s just a horrible scene.

  19. rayc2 June 17, 2014 at 09:15 #

    Pruning often allows stronger regrowth. I’ve been buried in work of late but do visit the blog weekly for a look around & a read. I usually try utub or similar to listen to bands/talent I’ve not come across prior to commiting to an album. Followed the link to the replay of SBS radio a couple of weeks ago – radio plays in SBS are good fun.
    Thanks for keeping the music coming OD.

  20. deepsky4565 June 17, 2014 at 06:06 #

    I don’t post often, but I learn much from others. Much of this material I am unfamiliar with, but I enjoy hanging out with everyone here. I tend to post only when I have something that adds to the knowledge base, I don’t often post “me too” kinds of things. I definitely don’t want to be left out, though! Please keep me in the loop, and I’ll post more if you want me to. I appreciate the hard work involved to make these happen!!!

  21. lizardking430 June 17, 2014 at 02:28 #

    I’ve been slack on commenting…

    I’ll try and be better from now on…..

  22. smokey901 June 16, 2014 at 22:43 #

    Thanks O.D. for all your hard work, I’ll be posting comments more often from now on.

  23. lonky53 June 16, 2014 at 21:36 #

    I, for one, enjoy your postings and find that you have both brought a new listening experience to old favorites and introduced me to music I may never had heard before.
    Your blog takes me back to the first time i heard Quad recordings and was floored by what I was hearing.It took 30 years to finally get a surround system of my own, and you provide the majority of the titles I listen to.
    Much Thanks

  24. floydflush June 16, 2014 at 20:03 #

    That’s what happened on all those “sublime” music forums (except here!):
    Everyone is keen to find a mistake. Everybody wants to complain of details he is not pleased with. But who is coming with a solution? Where is the man with the helping hand?
    The place is just here. Most other places are like the … net. Lot of Bla-bla.

  25. erikdali1 June 16, 2014 at 17:50 #

    I’ll make an effort to post comments, which I normally don’t do, since I’m not sure I have much to add beyond thanking you for all your great work!

    • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 17:56 #

      Well, as a few ideas, how is the mix, does the mix improve the listening experience, or detracts from it. Does the mix differ from the stereo version, better or worse.

      If the album is an Ambisonic decode, how does the image creation work for you?

  26. Matt Eastwood June 16, 2014 at 17:14 #

    Hey OD! Just a quick note to say thanks for all the hard work and the many years you’ve invested. I feel privileged to be here!

  27. dparkervt June 16, 2014 at 17:14 #

    No offense to you, Dickie, but I think most of the “great” stuff is already out there, and the rest is rather ‘fringe’. I’m waiting for something killer that I never knew about, but I know that is probably going to be a long wait, Or maybe it doesn’t exist??

    • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 17:25 #

      I suppose it depends on a persons view of what is “great stuff” and what is “fringe”. We all like different types of music, and it’s a fair bet my view of what’s great and what’s fringe will differ from yours, and anyone else’s. That’s the beauty of music.

      • Q! June 16, 2014 at 17:38 #

        You are absolutely right!

      • One Step Into Wordpress June 17, 2014 at 09:18 #

        I totally agree. There’s been plenty of times that I might not be into an artist too much, but getting the chance to hear them in surround thanks to you has made my ears happy countless times.

        – Which reminds me I got a Billy Joel quad from you last month that I haven’t played yet. Shame Shame Shame Shame Shame.

    • Owen Smith June 16, 2014 at 19:38 #

      There was a Queen BBC studio session broadcast in Matrix H, I’d consider that killer material. If only we could find a recording of it.

      • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 19:43 #

        I agree, but tracking down the H/HJ material broadcast by the BBC in ’77/78 is a hard one. basically we are reliant on people having recorded them on quality equipment and tapes.

        But, you never know……

      • sacdtodvda June 18, 2014 at 11:03 #

        It’s a bit like the Alan Freeman broadcast of WYWH – I keep finding blog posts from just a few years ago from people who say they have it, but they either don’t reply or don’t have it anymore.

        • oxforddickie June 18, 2014 at 16:50 #

          Yes, i’ve been down that road as well. From what i can remember of that broadcast, it wasn’t a remix but the original 4 channel master of the album that was used.

          Wonder how many strings had to be pulled for that to happen?

        • Owen Smith June 18, 2014 at 23:54 #

          I don’t believe anyone that says they no longer have it. Why would anyone willingly give up owning a copy of that? Create another copy to give to someone sure, but give up your only copy of a quad broadcast of WYWH? Don’t believe it.

          Of course it’s no longer relevant, we have Wish You Were Here original quad in 24/96 from the Immersion set Blu Ray, and to be honest it’s not very good. Rather than the band doing it themselves, they’d have been much better off getting Alan Parsons to do it base on his great work with Dark Side in quad.

  28. tenbeersbold June 16, 2014 at 11:45 #

    LOL..why is the quad world at least the online contingent for the most part such a cantankerous/oddball bunch.QQ is full of petty factions and here is mostly a ghost town

    Oh well… keep ’em coming please OD!
    After all it’s the music that matters πŸ™‚

    • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 12:02 #

      I’m p****d of with the quad community. It seems that unless your willing to tow the line, don’t rock the boat by correcting the mass of made up inaccuracies they pass off as knowledge, and are willing to keep people’s knowledge of what is what in regards the the true facts of quad out of an area that is supposed to be ‘THE’ place to be, then you’ll not be tolerated.

      That’s probably the problem here, everything i put into this blog is backed up by a large amount of detective work, and is factually accurate. If i don’t know, then i’ll either say so, or say nothing.

      i won’t tolerate those who try to cause problems, i have to remove many a comment and ban folks for trying to bring the QQ mentality here.

      Sorry, must hide that soapbox πŸ˜‰

      • g335 June 16, 2014 at 15:23 #

        No need to hide your soapbox OD, for you have the best blog going in my humble opinion! Before I found your site many moons ago, I read through quite a bit of the QQ pages, but never became a member. It is precisely for the same reasons you site above.
        However, you do put in the detective work and try to be as factually accurate as possible. And for that, I’m very grateful and appreciative of your efforts and glad to be here!
        For myself, I’ve been stock-piling your titles to hopefully soon, have a surround sound set up again. It will happen eventually, once I find a new home that has the space. And once I do, I’ll be a kid in a candy store with so many sweet choices to finally hear in surround! Thanks again. πŸ™‚

        • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 15:34 #

          Yikes, i can’t imagine having titles with nothing to play them on. Sounds like a real nightmare, hope you get sorted soon!

      • capt2muchclutter June 16, 2014 at 16:26 #

        That detective work is exactly why I’m interested. If it wasn’t for your help I could still be playing random different matrix recordings through PLII and thinking that was quad! your earlier mentions of the math that goes into it, and differences in approaches among the systems made me understand the error of my thinking. The proof is in the music!

        • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 16:35 #

          Thanks for the comments, it nice to know there are some who stop and listen, compare, then make their own minds up.

    • Owen Smith June 16, 2014 at 12:15 #

      Personally I’m mystified by all the issues in the quad world. It’s a small enough niche interest already, we should all be helping each other.

      I have seen this before. I used to be involved in the Acorn RISC OS computers and operating system scene, and as that shrank in size the scene became more and more toxic. Maybe when people are fighting for the last remaininng crumbs under the table they can get all precious about it? Elements of trying to be a big fish in a small pond?

      • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 12:49 #

        Quite possibly. I’ve never wanted to be one of the big fish, i’m a back room boffin that prefers things to be right and can’t tolerate people being misled with false and inaccurate information.

        As i’ve probably said before, i’m also a member of other groups, some with very experience and knowledgeable people in them, but nowhere have i met anything like the rabble in QQ.

        I guess that’s why i’ve not turned this blog into a technically biased one. I don’t discuss anything about my work, the process’s etc. And that won’t change.

        As ‘tenbeersbold’ said “After all it’s the music that matters :)”

  29. clunesy June 15, 2014 at 16:33 #

    Does dedicated seeding mitigate against ‘inactivity’ ? I

    • Owen Smith June 15, 2014 at 17:57 #

      OD said above “By that i mean they have taken no active involvement in the blog by leaving comments, reviews etc.” Seeding is great but if you don’t post to say you’re doing it how is OD supposed to know? He can’t normally track someone’s IP address when seeding to a username.

      My concern is that removing all the inactive members will leave about 20 of us. Still, it’s OD’s blog so that’s up to him, and unlike the rest of us he does know which users donate.

      • oxforddickie June 15, 2014 at 18:22 #

        You took the words right out of my mouth. Especially if people change their IP address’s!

        I don’t believe that removing the members who probably no longer visit or have any involvement here will have any effect. I saw names in the list i’ve not seen in any aspect of the running of the blog, so i’ll be taking the next few weeks to look closely at all the data, and will then ‘trim the fat’.

        It was a toss of the coin whether i announced it or not, but i wanted to be fair and open to everyone.

        • primeevil187 June 15, 2014 at 22:23 #

          So you’re going to remove people like me, who give you the occasional donation, because I don’t comment? That’s wrong. I’m not here for a chat, I’m here to purchase the quad rips you provide.

          • oxforddickie June 16, 2014 at 06:41 #

            As i said, i will be removing the ‘Dead Wood’. You do need to re-read what i said. It’s just a clean-up exercise. Perhaps i should have done it without telling people, but damage done. At least it got you to post a comment LOL πŸ˜‰

        • joeerand June 16, 2014 at 01:07 #

          That seems fair to me, and as you approach the amazing milestone of 400 (!) releases, thanks again for your unique and remarkable work! You’ve done an excellent job of running the blog as well.

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