Jefferson Starship – Dragon Fly

19 Sep

Jefferson Starship - Dragon Fly CB048 frontLink

Release: CB048F

Source: Q4



16 Responses to “Jefferson Starship – Dragon Fly”

  1. sacdtodvda October 18, 2015 at 11:35 #

    First, let me add my congratulations to the Captain for overcoming the considerable technical difficulties in bringing this release to us.

    I had one of my rare opportunities to have a comparison listen of this transfer against a CD-4 conversion. What ever did the neighbours think of hearing Ride The Tiger blaring repeatedly?

    Overall this transfer has a fuller sound compared to the CD-4 – more of the instrumentation sounds present and the bass guitar in particular has more presence and is more distinct while the piano where it is highlighted as a solo instrument on song intros sounds more full and natural.

  2. Owen Smith September 26, 2015 at 15:54 #

    This is well worth the effort the Captain put into this final version. Musically great, probably as others have said the peak of Jefferson Starship musically but slightly before their commercial success. Great music all the way through. The quad mix is well done with plenty going on, but this isn’t a demo album and the mix supports the music rather than flashy effects. The sound quality of the Q4 transfer is very good and shows no signs that I can detect of what the Captain had to do to the tape to get the various transfers from it. Thank you Captain!

  3. Matt Eastwood September 21, 2015 at 15:30 #

    Brilliant brilliant brilliant! Before this, I only had a CD-4 conversion of this title, and this reel conversion one blows it out of the water. The difference is day and night. Amazing quality. Fantastic title, thanks so much for your continued hard and outstanding work, guys!

  4. Lonky 1 September 20, 2015 at 15:24 #

    I’m in awe of the procedure and dedication that you and OD have to the preservation and sharing of these quad recordings. i am so grateful for all of the people who contribute to this forum and have entertained me and others.

    • captainbeyond55 September 20, 2015 at 21:03 #

      Thank you for your gratitude and all the other members who comment their thanks as well. I see this adventure as having three parts which combined make this whole endeavor complete.Heaven knows that OD and myself cannot purchase every title on every format that was ever produced in quad. Even though we try. So the first part is the source material including those members who provide (records, tapes and transfers). The second part consist of the mythical decoded releases that our master of ceremonies provides combined with the occasional offering from yours truly the Captain. The third and final part is you the members who form the audience. Any single part without the other two would seem pointless to me. Long live this blog and may we all enjoy the music for many years to come.

  5. SteveTuznik September 19, 2015 at 05:50 #

    It may not have been all that enjoyable straightening out the technical glitch and you didn’t have to do this, you and OD never have to or even owe us anything. But your dedication to getting things right always stands out. Anyone downloading for a third time is absolutely “nothing” compared to the work, time, and effort you put into this.

    Everybody makes mistakes but this was really nothing in the grand scheme of things.
    So thanks again.

    “To err is human;
    To admit it,

  6. rockysquirrel September 19, 2015 at 03:05 #

    It’s right this time. The Captain did a marvelous job rescuing this tape.

    • Owen Smith September 19, 2015 at 13:02 #

      So was any steaming required to get wrinkles out of the tape?

      I llove the occasional descripion we’ve had from the Captain, re-spooling entire Q8s gives me images of a mountain of tape all over the floor with the Captain twirling it back onto the cartridge with a pencil (a pencil fits very nicely in compact cassette hubs, I don’t know what does with job for Q8).

      • captainbeyond55 September 19, 2015 at 17:46 #

        Your mental picture of re-spooling a Q8 is accurate except for the pencil. This Q4 of ‘Dragon Fly’ was not wrinkled but squeaked and squawked during playback. Baking in a food dehydrator cured the problem during the initial transfer to digital. However at that time a switch on the Russound QT-1 switcher was set incorrectly which resulted in the flawed back channels of the prior release. Attempting a redo failed as the baking had no effect this time.

        The fix for this is rather unique but not my original idea. Read it somewhere online. All was needed was a package of cosmetic cotton round cleaning pads and a bottle of Nu Finish car polish. Soaked a cotton pad with the polish and pinched the tape right before the take-up reel as the deck fast forwarded the tape. Rotated, re-soaked pad and replaced as needed. With some patience and a bit of time I was able to polish this Q4 which was unusable before, even after backing. I was very surprised that this technique worked so well. Wonder how long the fix will last?

        • scott colburn September 19, 2015 at 18:41 #

          The baking process you are referring to usually only lasts for 3 days. you can rebake over and over if needed.

        • Owen Smith September 19, 2015 at 20:12 #

          That sounds very satisfying to get a good result after all that work polishing the tape. It’s like taking an old piece of equipment that doesn’t work apart, replacing a couple of components, lubricating and re-assembling to produce something that works as good as new.

          I am similarly in awe of my father’s engineering skills at times. Due to unavailaibility of spare parts (due to “put a new one in, sir” mentality) he’s starting cutting entire gear wheels on his model making lathe, or auto thread cutting large inside threads for impossible to buy nuts. Last time it was for the rear wiper assembly for his car, the dealer wanted to sell him a new motor unit for £80. Four hours with the lathe making a new nut and he had the old one working perfectly. The Captain’s repairs to old tapes give me the same feeling of satisfaction that someone at least still knows how to do this stuff.

          • captainbeyond55 September 20, 2015 at 19:48 #

            Your father sounds like a very interesting gentleman and quite skilled too. Yes you are correct. One can find personal satisfaction from taking something that is broken and making it work again. Even more so if the fix is somewhat unorthodox. I had the opportunity to visit some machine shops in Oak Ridge back in the 80’s and was always in awe when watching those techs run the lathes.

          • Owen Smith September 20, 2015 at 21:39 #

            When he’s not in a grumpy mood yes my dad is an interesting chap. As he gets older the grumpy moods become more common, my mum is a saint at times putting up with “grumpy daddy” as we’ve nick named him. There are times when all you can do is get him to go out to the shed out of the way and do something on his lathe. Anything.

  7. deepsky4565 September 19, 2015 at 00:29 #

    So, what is the difference between this one and the one from a short time ago? Thanks.

    • captainbeyond55 September 19, 2015 at 12:45 #

      On the prior release the rear channels were flawed more of less duplicate sums of the front channels. This release is now a correct transfer of the original Q4.

    • rockysquirrel September 19, 2015 at 14:16 #

      The previous download did not have all 4 channels..

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