David Bowie – Serious Moonlight

20 Nov

David Bowie - Serious Moonlight DS313f frontwithdrawn

Contains NO Video footage

Recorded in Vancouver 1983, and released on both tape and laserdisc with an SQ encoded soundtrack, this concert contains many of Bowies hits.

The laserdisc used was the second release that contained both anolgue & digital audio tracks.

 There were no more than four concerts released with SQ encoded audio, one of which i’ve already released using the CD as a source (DS131f). Another concert will be released in due course.

Release: DS313f

Source: SQ LD (second version)

Process: SQ/II

Format: DVD-A/V  MLP/DTS/DD

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19 Responses to “David Bowie – Serious Moonlight”

  1. Owen Smith January 24, 2016 at 17:00 #

    Any reason this was withdrawn?

    • oxforddickie January 24, 2016 at 17:12 #

      The idea was to reissue it, but the Laserdisc player has had other ideas, the mechanism locked up keeping hold of the disc.

      I’ve yet to strip it down to see what has happened.

    • Owen Smith January 24, 2016 at 18:04 #

      That’s a shame. It also shows the worth of keeping all the stereo captures of your releases, which is something you already said you wanted to do.

  2. rayshackleford June 16, 2014 at 02:18 #

    This is something I never even knew could exist. Laserdisc is such a weird format, it seems natural that somehow there would be some crossover between our communities. This is a great performance if a little heavy on the ambiance over clarity for this mix. I only wish Bowie had mixed Young Americans, Fame, Golden Years etc for quad.

  3. Owen Smith March 13, 2014 at 20:14 #

    You mentioned that there are two more SQ encoded concert laserdiscs, one of which you were planning to release in due course. I always like live recordings on the blog, any chance of seeing the next concert soon?

    • oxforddickie March 13, 2014 at 21:46 #

      One has been sitting on the hard drive for a few months now. There are reasons why it hasn’t been released, will listen to it again and make up my mind if it’s worthy of release

  4. philbiker December 29, 2013 at 01:51 #

    Finally got to this. Sounds great. Thanks!

  5. Owen Smith December 8, 2013 at 11:06 #

    Oh yes I meant to ask, I thought laserdisc digital audio was 44.1 like CD but the MLP on this release shows as 48 KHz. I’m not saying this is a fault, I’m just intrigued. Was I wrong and laserdisc digital audio is at 48 KHz sample rate, or was this sample rate converted either on the digital input or later as part of the processing?

    • oxforddickie December 8, 2013 at 12:57 #

      Yes, your correct, but it appears the digital output isn’t locked and allowed me to record the output at any sample rate i wanted, so i chose 48k so i wouldn’t have to upsample for DTS & DD. I thought it was strange, but then i don’t think the digital out is 100% to spec. I once tried recording the audio from an LD onto a CR-Recorder, and it failed to recognise it at all. Weird but true.

    • Owen Smith December 8, 2013 at 13:28 #

      The CD-R recorder may have failed to recognise the output if the “do not copy” bit was set in the laserdisc’s digital output. Damned copy protection. But there could have been another reason.

      I suspect sample rate conversion has been done for you in the digital input. Whether that does a better or worse job than later in software would need investigation. Also this way the sample rate conversion has been done prior to SQ decoding whereas you normally do it after decode. Again who knows which is better without investigation.

      It still sounds very good.

  6. Owen Smith December 7, 2013 at 12:59 #

    Nice sound quality, an ambient quad mix representing the audience and acoustic of the venue. Sadly I don’t actually get most Bowie, his style changes so much for different albums I don’t see how anyone can like all of it. There are about half a dozen tracks I really like on here, so it’s nice to have those performed live and im quad.

  7. beukenoot November 27, 2013 at 19:25 #

    Hi OD

    sounds nice! I always thought LD (not LV) had a stereo-track in 44.1/16 like CD..
    Cannot check it because i sold my Philips LDP600 (inside sony!) long time ago.

    Some (USA) LV’s had a HF track and you needed a DD5.1 decoder with HF input.

    As far as i know, LD had not any analogue sound, or maybe they did thta for compatibility with the older LV.

    Pity you could not record the video as well. LD suffered from low frequency noise sometimes (dependent on quality of the player. I had a 495 from philips who was bad, the 600 was much better..), and much noise in colors due to small bandwith. Nevertheless, with some good video soft you can minimalize this (without too much smearing effect..)
    There is also a DVD-V though i saw on discogs and there they remixed the 4-ch to 5..
    Maybe that was from the original recording, who knows..

    Thanks for this unique transfer !!!!

    • oxforddickie November 27, 2013 at 20:02 #

      The soundtrack on the DVD release was either a dreadful attempt at a decode or a so-so up-mix. Either way, it’s not recomended.

      The quality of LV/LD improved greatly from the early days of the Philips units, the later generation Pioneer machines were far superior to those early machines.

  8. Owen Smith November 21, 2013 at 00:37 #

    Wow, 43 peers of which I’m connected to 13. I’ve never seen so much action on this blog, it’s actually working like a torrent swarm is meant to because there are enough peers (more than enough). Alternativelt they’ve all been like this for years and my new broadband provider works much better.

  9. quadro2013 November 20, 2013 at 18:19 #

    Very cool! Thank You, O.D.!

  10. Owen Smith November 20, 2013 at 15:02 #

    Well this is popular, my uTorrent shows 24 peers.

    Is this a decode of the analogue or digital sound on the Laserdisc? I assume digital but it’s nice to get confirmation.

    Even with the digital sound I suspect you’ve had to digitise an analogue output. I’ve not heard of anyone ripping the digital audio bitstream direct off laserdisc, though I’d love to discover it can be done.

    • oxforddickie November 20, 2013 at 15:18 #

      I have a Pioneer CLD-D925 laserdisc player that has a digital output. From there into the digital input of one of the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 sound cards and hey presto!

  11. mickjerome November 20, 2013 at 13:21 #

    MERCI! I love Bowie since my teens.Thanks.

  12. tenbeersbold November 20, 2013 at 11:52 #

    YES!!! Thanks again OD!

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